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drowdude
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posted September 24, 2001 05:52 PM     Profile for drowdude   Email drowdude     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by oddjob:
Yes, but accumulating every ability over only 5 levels may make it too powerful, even though the class is not combat oriented.

Good point. Breaking up the "+1 level of existing class" for the spellcasting to 1, 3, & 5 seems like it would solve that problem.

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posted September 24, 2001 08:42 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You underestimate the power of her Allure abilities. They aren't to be trifled with, and should probably be spread out over 10 levels.

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posted September 24, 2001 09:52 PM     Profile for Sparrowhawk   Author's Homepage   Email Sparrowhawk     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Y'know, I like what you're doing here. If the Houri is any indication, the 3E BoUCK could easily become an instant classic. However, I'm worried that players won't be able to take all the necessary sex skills without sacrificing their more useful adventuring skills. I mean, the idea that a druid should have to sacrifice knowledge: nature to be a great lover doesn't sound good to me. Perhaps you could suggest an expanded skill system in which all characters would get extra skill points to spend on roleplaying/background skills that aren't likely to be useful while out adventuring. I.E. craft, profession, knowledge, languages, and of course SEX! I've contemplated such a system before and I believe it could go a long way towards making characters who are effective and competent heroes but aren't just the sum of their adventuring abilities.

I don't have a clear system in my head, however. How many extra points should characters get? Should different classes get more or fewer points? Will this be unbalancing?

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Kolvar
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posted September 25, 2001 02:48 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just to get back to Blown Kiss Feat:
ALL the kiss spells are dropped and you may use any spell with the kiss feat (which ever it will be).
To make a Blown Kiss Feat out of a Kiss Spell would just be like using the spell without the kiss feat.
I.E. There is no use for a Blown Kiss Feat!!!!
Or is there anything else you would do with a blown kiss feat except cancel out another feat?

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posted September 25, 2001 02:57 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riot Gear: Do you have a compilation of your rules at hand, that you could send me? Something almost complete and up to date (i.e. more than that on the board?)
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posted September 25, 2001 08:03 AM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'll get you a collection this evening.

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posted September 25, 2001 09:21 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
bump, cus I like ho.

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posted September 26, 2001 02:28 AM     Profile for Avatar   Email Avatar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i know this sound a bit wierd with you guy so far into this already. But did you ever think about making sex acts a thing under the perform skill? It seems the perfect place to put it to be honest

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posted September 26, 2001 03:04 AM     Profile for Puppy   Email Puppy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Dear god, +save versus disease... That's absurd, but terrific

Blown Kiss makes some sense, turns a touch attack into a kiss attack into a ranged kiss attack, perhaps if you have other feats/abilities which apply specifically to kiss attacks it would be more useful?

Also, don't forget to include some good magic items. "Rod of Vibration," "Ring of Rigidity," and "Portable Hole" come to mind.


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Riot Gear
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posted September 26, 2001 08:00 AM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Trust me, there will be new magic items. Very interesting magic items... And Sexual Technique could be renamed Perform (Sex) without changing any of the effects.

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posted September 27, 2001 09:02 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmmm... work seems to have slowed down here. I haven't done nearly as much as I should have in the last week or so.
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posted September 27, 2001 09:32 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just to keep thinks looking good: 12 spells to go in the first round. I will have to go through all of them a second time, to apply some rules better.

I got a new Spell, I would like to share here:


Ilruna's Roulette
Enchantment (Mind-Affecting)
Level: Brd 4, Src/ Wiz 4
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 hour
Range: the same plane
Target: 1 person
Duration: 10 minutes per level
Saving Throw: Negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

Ilruna's Roulette will cause the subject of the spell to experience different phases of arousal determined by the caster. The caster is able to create the following phases: excitement, arousal, plateau and afterglow but not orgasm. He may switch the phase each round. The subject of the spell will only be able to receive an orgasm, when the caster wishes so.
If the caster stops concentrating on the subject of the spell, the subject will begin to experience random phases each minute. Consult the following table:

Roll Phase of Arousal
1 Excitement
2 Arousal
3 Plateau
4 Afterglow

A character receiving this treatment will be exhausted afterwards and in some cases repeated casting of Ilruna's Roulette will result in insanity.
The material component for this spell is some item worth at least 10 gp that belonged to the subject of the spell for more than a year.

I am not sure about the level.
What do you think?


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posted September 27, 2001 10:41 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Looks pretty good Kolvar. The level seems about right, it's on par with Confusion (which is Level 4) in terms of effect, but over a longer duration since it has less combat use.

I don't understand whether the victim can have an orgasm or not though. Does he need the Caster's 'permission' or can he not have one until the spell ends?


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Kolvar
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posted September 27, 2001 11:34 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
he can not, until the spell ends is probably the easiest way.
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posted September 27, 2001 05:32 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I had an idea for a spell called Rose Armor that wraps the casters in rose stems with roses for hair, with all of the thorns pointing outward. You gain significant natural armor, you have a chance of looking so romantic and mysterious as to stun onlookers, and your unarmed attacks do damage due to thorns. The problem is, not only are one of the spell components a handful of petals freshcut from a rose, but you have to be completely naked when you cast it. What do you think?

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oddjob
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posted September 27, 2001 06:28 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That sounds damn clever. Reminds me of a sword in BG2 called the Blade of roses which gave the wielder extra Charisma. How would the appearance work though? Would it be a Charisma bonus? Or would it only work with some people?

Anyway, I'm still converting the old magic items. I've changed some significantly and now I'm sorting them out into categories. Thanks for posting the 'Endowment' rules in the other thread Riot Gear, now I convert the 'Ring of the Bull' properly.

What should I be doing after this? I've been thinking of doing the Prostitute and Brothel generation stuff, but I'm not sure. What do you think a typical pro should be? A commoner or expert?

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posted September 27, 2001 08:12 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
A typical prostitute will be a commoner with two ranks of Sexual Technique, two ranks of Bluff, and two ranks of Sense Motive, in that order of priority. An Expert level prostitute would be a rare thing indeed.

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posted September 27, 2001 08:30 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've had the idea of defining a species or cultural sexuality like the Manual of the Planes defines a plane - A set of characteristics, each of which could be one of several options. I'm going to list my ideas for the characteristics along with potential options.

------Dominant Gender (Who wears the pants)
Matriarchal
Feminine
Neutral
Masculine
Patriarchal

------Sex Drive (How horny they get)
Nonexistant
Weak
Average
Strong
Screaming

------Sexual Cycle (When they're horny)
Constant
Periodic
Singular
Conditional

------Frequency of Homosexuality (Guess)
Unknown
Rare
Occasional
Frequent
Dominant
Universal

------Acceptance of "Alternative Lifestyles"
Violent
Repressive
Shameful
Resigned
Non-chalant
Enthusiastic
Dominant

------Frequency of sexual abnormality (fetish or perversion of some kind)
Pure
Rare
Occasional
Often
Universal

------Nature of Sexual Abnormality (Tendencies towards specific perversions)
Varied
Focused
Singular

------Mating Habits (How they pair up)
Monogamous
Polyamourous
Casual
Hostile

------Sexual Desire (What turns them on?)
Symmetry
Scent
Sound
Texture
Power
Intelligence

What you thinking?

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posted September 27, 2001 08:32 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's kinda what I meant much earlier about templates and stat blocks. It would simplify things alot and reduce the amount of text you need.

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Kolvar
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posted September 28, 2001 03:18 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The rose-spell sounds realy nice and the Manual of the Planes style definitions look good, too.

T.Catt, the fellow with the warrior of rapture prestige class has answered and we could use his class. I told him, that we possibly would have to change part of it, about what he is not so eager.
But because Oddjob is doing the PrCs at the moment, I think, that you should contact him. I already asked him about that:
Address is:
tcatt@home.com


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posted September 28, 2001 05:35 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmmm...I'm not sure how I would go about it. The problem is, the Warriors of Rapture class is good, but with the Kiss feats and Spell list both being more powerful than anything in our system, I'm not certain the class would fit in.

We'd have to finish all the spells and feats before the PrCs could be done, I think.


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posted September 28, 2001 08:09 AM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm with Oddjob on this one. I recommend we power it down a great deal. He didn't want us to change it, though, correct? we might have to make a new PrC to replace it.

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Kolvar
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posted September 28, 2001 11:32 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I am totally with you both, but I can understand everyone, who does something like a PrC and does not want it to be changed.

I am done with the spells,
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first time through. I will will check them again, put them in the correct (alphabetical) Order and I need to check the Domains.
If you have done the Roses-Spell, Riot Gear, could you send it to me?

To everybody else: Any more spells, that should be included?


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posted September 28, 2001 11:50 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think having finished the Core spells is enough, if anyone comes up with any spell Ideas we could always add it later.

Kolvar: Can you send me the converted spells or a spell list with a brief description of what they do? This might change some of the prerequisites for the Magic items.

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posted September 28, 2001 12:10 PM     Profile for Ialdabode   Email Ialdabode     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riot Gear - the idea of using MotP style categories for the races is an excellent idea. It could probably save you a lot of space by presenting a table of that under each race and then having the text exist to note something unique about the race's sexuality that the table can't cover.

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