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posted September 21, 2001 06:43 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm still doing the prestige classes. I seem to be writing all 9 or so at the same time. I've hit a sang with the PSiducer though, I can't think what abilities to give it without seeming too much like all the other Magic using prestige classes.

I'll start converting Magic items this weekend as well. Maybe Halfbreed templates and Brothels in the week.


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posted September 22, 2001 06:57 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've decided to do something rather ambitious in this project, if you are all willing. I'd like to detail the sexual characteristics, culture, and mindset of, well, the whole Monster Manual. I'm working on the file already - I'd like to split the labor, though. Is anyone interested in doing a segment?

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posted September 22, 2001 07:05 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The entire Monster manual? That'll take quite a while, I'm not sure I would want to know about the sexual culture of Night hags in any case . How about just the major monsters like Orcs, goblinoids, dragons, giants and stuff?

Anyway, I've got another PrC here, a slightly changed Houri class. I decided to add a whole bunch of new abilities as the original was a bit bland.

The Houri

"We're going to do something you've never even imagined."

Hit die: d4
Skills: As Wizard + Bluff, Sense motive and Diplomacy 2+Int Mod/level
Requirements:
Feats: Spell Focus (Enchantment), Kiss spell, Still spell
Skills: Sexual technique 8 ranks, Bluff 4 ranks
Spellcasting: Able to cast 5 Arcane spells from the school of Enchantment, one of which must be of 3rd level or higher
Manoeuvres: Sexual Combination, Dextrous Lover, Wild Lover, Anal stimulation, Masturbation Specialization, Oral Sex Focus
Special: Must be female

BAB: as wiz
saves: as wiz

spells: +1 level of existing class every level

1. Sex trick, Bewitch
2. +1 Save Vs. Disease
3. Sex trick, Improved Kiss
4. +2 Save Vs. Disease
5. Sex trick, Enamor
6. +3 Save Vs. Disease
7. Sex trick, Lust
8. +4 Save Vs. Disease
9. Sex trick, Desire
10. +5 Save Vs. Disease

The Houri is a Nymph of paradise, voluptuous and sensual. She was most likely born in poverty amongst the seedier members of society, living in misery and destitution but dreaming of a better future. With hope comes power, and unlike others she will not stoop to a life of thievery and scavenging, instead using her intelligence and charm to lead a life of magic. Her spells of enchantment are used to augment her skills of charm and seduction.

She is often despised by others as a whore or corrupt individual who leads a life of debauchery, although others view her as the most alluring of fantasies.

The Houri is often found in the poorer parts of the city, looking for those who could rescue her out of the way of life she so detests. It is said that to spend a night with a Houri is pure ecstasy, and each kiss a new experience.

Save vs. Disease (Ex): Due to her somewhat seedy lifestyle, the Houri receives a bonus to fortitude saving throws against disease, starting from +1 and increasing by one every odd level. This bonus applies to all diseases, including magical afflictions such as Mummy rot or Lycanthropy.

Sex trick: The Houri receives a bonus sex trick, although the rank requirements must still be met.

Bewitch (Sp): Once per day per level, the Houri can use her alluring charms to captivate any male creature who can conceivably be attracted to her. This is treated as a gaze attack, if the victim looks into the Houri's eyes, he must make a Will save (DC 13 + Cha Mod) or be fascinated as the Hypnotic pattern spell. A kiss does not count as a threatening action. The range is 10' per class level.

Improved kiss (Su): When using a spell augmented by the Kiss Spell feat, the Houri may add metamagic feats by making the kiss longer and more passionate (always on the lips, and always male victims). Every full extra round spent on kissing the victim adds one to the spell level for the purposes of adding extra metamagic feats, which may be added spontaneously when using this ability (Even if spells are prepared as wizard). For example, if a Houri wanted empower her Vampiric touch kiss, she would spend an extra two rounds kissing the victim. The spell will take effect when the Houri stops the kiss. This kind of kiss is difficult to perform in combat, so only Helpless or willing targets (such as those that are fascinated) can usually be affected. This has been known to be used in conjunction with Bewitch to cast an empowered Delayed blast fireball to spectacular effect.

Enamor (Sp): At 5th level, the Houri can use her Bewitch power to fascinate all males around her. By using 2 of her daily Bewitch abilities, she can fascinate all those within 5' per class level. The DC however is now 15 + Cha mod.

Lust: At 7th level, a Houri has learned how to use her charms to drive men mad with lust. This is treated as a Gaze attack, any man meeting her eyes must make a Will save (DC 15 + Cha Mod) or be affected by a potion of love. The victim will try to gain the sexual favor of the Houri, but if married or Chaste may make another saving throw. The victim will not do anything against his nature.

Dark Desires (Sp): At 9th level, a Houri can use her allure to great effect, three times per day, she may make a gaze attack on a male victim, who must make a Will save (DC 17 + Cha Mod) or become completely obsessed with her. In game terms, the Victim will stop at nothing to gain her sexual favor and love, becoming Chaotic Evil for those that stand in his way. He will not be so infatuated as to stop eating or so foolhardy to the point of being suicidal, but the Houri is his first priority. While this does not give the Houri any actual control over the victim, she gains a +4 circumstance bonus on all Cha based checks to influence him.

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posted September 22, 2001 07:58 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmmm... Looks good over all... But it doesn't look like it really NEEDS to be a prestige class, most of this could be done with feats. Don't do too much more work on this yet... We need more stuff to thicken the trunk before we start adding branches.

Regarding what monsters to describe, how about the following...

The following categories will not only have text descriptions on the place sex has in their society, but also statisitics describing their sexual abilities for any player who have sex with them.

*Goblinoids and Humanoids*
Bugbears, Centaurs, Dwarves (Deep Dwarves, Derro, Duergar, Mountain,) Elves (Aquatic, Drow, Gray, Wood, and Wild,) Gnolls, Goblins, Grimlocks, Halflings (Lightfoot, Tallfellow, Deep,) Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Kuo-Toa, Lizardfolk, Locathah, Merfolk, Mind Flayers, Minotaurs, Ogres, Orcs, Sahuagin, Skum, Tritons, Troglodtyes, and Yuan-Ti

*Civilized Outsiders, Fey, and Dangerous Humanoids*
Azer, Barghest, Celestials, Demons, Devils, Dryad, Formian, Gargoyle, Genie, Harpy, Lillend, Medusa, Mephits, Nymph, Rakshasa, Salamanders, Satyr, Slaadi, Sphynx, Sprites, Treant, and Xill

That should cover pretty much everyone. Everything else would get a one paragraph description.

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posted September 22, 2001 08:06 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Actually, now that I've thought about it, the thing that bugs me about your Houri prestige class is that it isn't particularly feminine. There's no real reason that only a woman would be able to take this class aside from flavor reasons. See if you can give it a genuine feminine feel.

Basically, this class doesn't feel much like a sex based prestige class. It feels too much like a magic based prestige class. A high level Houri should be able to walk in to a room and everything should STOP. A high level houri should be able to look in to a mans eyes from across the street and make him forget all about his lovely wife, middle class home, and six kids. A high level houri should be able to stun a man with her allure in the middle of a fierce, bloody melee and kiss him with a Fireball spell, a kiss so hot he turns to ash in her arms.

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posted September 22, 2001 08:10 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, that's a good point, I just wanted to update the Class for completeness anyway. I'll do some adjustments over the week after I think up of more mind affecting abilities. In fact, since quite alot of abilties could be adapted into feats or spells, I'm going to scrap some of the PrCs I'm working on and reduce the number to about 4-5, one for each of the core class "groups".

The list seems more reasonable, but even half a page to each of those would give us well over 50 pages, combined with the one paragraph descriptions, probably well over 70 odd. I think that would still be way too much. Instead, how about a paragraph and stat block for each of them, and an advancement or template for each monster type? This could be augmented by more stuff in the description and stat block.

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posted September 22, 2001 08:42 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh, trust me. I can get the material done by weekend after next. I'm 15 and verbally minded, remember? I live for this sort of thing.

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posted September 22, 2001 08:58 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
True, but i thought this guide would only be about 100-150 pages or so, something like sword and fist or Tome and blood. What you're suggesting would make it more like the FRCS book (Which has potential).

If you're that stuck for something to do, why not look at the draft contents i suggested on page 3.

By the way, have you finished the Sadism and Secret touch sex tricks yet?


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posted September 23, 2001 12:05 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riot Gear: Okay, I've updated the earlier Houri post. I probably still have room for improvement but I think its closer to your vision of the Houri. I hope you like it better.
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posted September 23, 2001 04:48 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sorry, I have not been around the last days to give unnecessary comments (because you two seem to get along nicely without me). We got the nimda-virus at work and when I went home to take a look at my computer I got it already there.
I should be save now, because I am doing this from a linus-box.
The other spells are delayed, sorry.
Riot Gear: You must realy have a lot of time at your hands.
OddJob: I will do the psionic abilities soon after the spells, so wait with the psiducer. I think, that I will have some nice feats for you by then. I will read your PrCs tomorrow, sorry.
A bit of the feats I am thinking about:

Aroused Casting [Metamagic]
Exchange all other spell components for sex.
Benefit: you may substitute all verbal, somatic and material [up to 1 gp] components while doing it. The casting time is four times the normal time. This got the added benefit, that you got to make no spellcraft check to cast while having sex.

Sexual Energy [Metamagic]
Use sexual energy to cast a spell.
Benefit: You are able to convert SRP-Damage done to you and your partner by you and your partner to magic energy. for every 10 SRP of damage taken, you may cast one spell-slot worth of spell that you are able to cast, without using one of your castings for the day.


Ritual Magic will work along the line of Secual Energy, with everyone contributing to the pool like Combined Ritual Magic from the R&R-book.

What do you think?


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posted September 23, 2001 05:36 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, a bit of constructive criticism is quite important, I think. I don't think we're being rude to each other or anything.

Actually Kolvar, I might scrap the Psiducer, the original was just a Psionicist who could use the special seduction skill. I think it could be presented as a Telepath with the right feats and skills, maybe some new psionic feats similar to psychoanalyst.


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posted September 23, 2001 10:23 AM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm with you on that one. and I LOVE the Houri. It's just... Wow. Remove the sex tricks and sexual requirements and it could be used in any game. That is one hell of a PrC!

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posted September 23, 2001 12:04 PM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No criticism, but information:
- the pregnancy is 42 weeks long (that is closer to 10 month for those of you, to lazy to calc.)
- The PMS described in the original comes sometimes quite close to reality, although there are herbs and pills, that will help there.

OddJob: you used the therm Kiss Spell feat. Do you mean the Transmitting Kiss Feat? If you like to call it that way, I will do it, too, never having been fond of the name.
I am with you on the psiducer. Psychic Warrior should do the job with lots of sexual feats (will have to think of a few, 5 to 8 should be sufficient).

Riot Gear: what about all those, that have their orgasm from just watching? (I do not mean voyorism, but early ones or the people with to much fantasy) How do you handle these cases with the rules?


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posted September 23, 2001 12:11 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kolvar: Yes, I mean the transmitting kiss feat, I'm not sure what we'll finally call it but it was the one I meant.

The Psiducer should have Psionic sexual feats like the ones in the PsiHB, only working when the current power point is high enough.

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posted September 23, 2001 01:15 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kiss Spell [Metamagic]
You can cast a spell by kissing the target.
Benefit: A Kiss Spell is considered to be affected by the Still Spell, Silent Spell, and Eschew Materials Metamagic feats, but faces some restrictions. In order to cast the spell, you must kiss the victim for a full round, with you beginning the kiss on your action and the spell taking effect on your action next turn, assuming you release the kiss then. Kissing a victim who is not willing to be kissed requires the caster to succeed at a Grapple check, making the Hold action, each round the kiss is maintained. Since no damage is actually made during this grapple, the check to Hold the victim is made at a +2 bonus. However, a kiss spell only affects the victim - Area spells cast this way affect only the target kissed. A kiss spell takes up a spell slot the same level as the base spell, altered by any other metamagic feats.

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posted September 23, 2001 05:52 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kolvar: I like the 2 metamagic feats, but for the Aroused casting feat, did you mean concentration check?

Riot Gear: Nicely done on the Kiss Spell feat, but I think the no Material components should be restricted to anything 1 gp or under as eschew materials.


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posted September 23, 2001 11:55 PM     Profile for ascendance   Email ascendance     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've thought about updating the Guide for some time now. I've also thought about writing up a d20 Guide to Drugs, mostly revolving around drug-enhanced magic.

How about Arcane (or Divine) Kiss as the name of the Transmitting Kiss Feat?

Also, as a tribute to Unknown Armies, how about a Pornomancer PrC that builds off the Arcane Sex feat?


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posted September 24, 2001 07:31 AM     Profile for Baastet   Email Baastet     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What about a Blown Kiss Spell feat? Maybe it could be an advancement on Kiss Spell?

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posted September 24, 2001 11:54 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OddJob: Maybe I should not do any feats at the moment (that reminds me, that we should do a chapter about sleeplessness because of children). you are right with concentration, Although I changed both feats in the meantime.

Riot Gear: Nicely done and more in line with the rules, than my feat (although I was quite fond of the possibilities of my Kiss Spell Feat version (g)) We should probably go with your version (or maybe both?)

how about Magic Kiss as feat name. Arcane/ Divine Kiss got something, but a double name for a single feat is no good.

Baastet: The Blown Kiss Spell feat got a real problem: first taking a feat to turn a spell into a kiss spell and than using a feat to undo it would be strange.


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posted September 24, 2001 12:16 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes - Baastet, could you expand on what this Blown Kiss feat would actually do?

BTW, I'm sure you've all seen it, but feel free to add anything to my thread on the General RPG Discussion board.

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posted September 24, 2001 12:28 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kolvar: I didn't mean that you should be working on the feats, I just mean that they should be [Psionic] feats.

Anyway, I'm halfway through converting the magic items. I've given them some reasonable caster levels and prerequisites and increased their market prices. I might make some new items up as well.

Riot Gear: Nice job on the cultures and sexual practices of the monsters, I'd help out, but I'm quite crappy with flavour text.


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posted September 24, 2001 12:42 PM     Profile for Baastet   Email Baastet     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Riot Gear:
Yes - Baastet, could you expand on what this Blown Kiss feat would actually do?

BTW, I'm sure you've all seen it, but feel free to add anything to my thread on the General RPG Discussion board.


Well I was thinking about the Kiss spells in the old Netbook .. most of them needed touch components.. So I thought the Blown Kiss could be a ranged touch attack instead of a touch attack.

I'm good with flavor text if you want to send some stuff my way.

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posted September 24, 2001 02:45 PM     Profile for Ialdabode   Email Ialdabode     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
A few points:

1. Blown Kiss would probably transform it from a touch attack to a ray, in essence. There are already feats for this, but perhaps it could be worked in as an ability for a prestige class (can perform all "kiss" spells as a ranged touch attack).

2. I am a proponent of using old skills in place of new ones - even if this is a joke material, it should be somewhat taken seriously, right? If nothing else, a small section on the uses of existing skills on the new subject would be useful (Bluff, Diplomacy, Sense Motive, and Tumble come to mind).

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posted September 24, 2001 04:03 PM     Profile for drowdude   Email drowdude     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oddjob:

The Houri

"We're going to do something you've never even imagined."

Hit die: d4
Skills: As Wizard + Bluff, Sense motive and Diplomacy 2+Int Mod/level
Requirements:
Feats: Spell Focus (Enchantment), Kiss spell, Still spell
Skills: Sexual technique 8 ranks, Bluff 4 ranks
Spellcasting: Able to cast 5 Arcane spells from the school of Enchantment, one of which must be of 3rd level or higher
Manoeuvres: Sexual Combination, Dextrous Lover, Wild Lover, Anal stimulation, Masturbation Specialization, Oral Sex Focus
Special: Must be female

BAB: as wiz
saves: as wiz

spells: +1 level of existing class every level

1. Sex trick, Bewitch
2. +1 Save Vs. Disease
3. Sex trick, Improved Kiss
4. +2 Save Vs. Disease
5. Sex trick, Enamor
6. +3 Save Vs. Disease
7. Sex trick, Lust
8. +4 Save Vs. Disease
9. Sex trick, Desire
10. +5 Save Vs. Disease

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This would work much better as a 5 level prestige class. Give them the disease resistance at first level and have the bonus be equal to their Houri class level.

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posted September 24, 2001 04:49 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes, but accumulating every ability over only 5 levels may make it too powerful, even though the class is not combat oriented.
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