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Kolvar
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posted September 20, 2001 06:29 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
regarding Oral Sex Focus:


what about the other way round (cunnilingus)?
a different mini-feat? the same feat with a different specialization? the same feat?

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posted September 20, 2001 06:38 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riot Gear: Wow! That list length is comparable to the Ken Hood martial arts manoeuvres. Nice to see you made use of the ones I sent you. Some of them seem to be incomplete, although I suspect its because some other rules must be finalised. I think that any ability score requirement should be an odd number though, this seems to be the case with all existing feats.

Kovlar: A few points to make on the spell conversions. A good job overall, but I have to nitpick here. You should change any spell with two schools to just one, as 3e seems to do this. Some of the saving throws are unspecific, so they should be changed to Fort negates or whatever, I also think that some should be allowed saving throws.

Transmitting kiss: I like the stuff about cover and amount of armor on, but I definitely think that the feat should be a metamagic one, otherwise sorcerers and bards will not be able to build up an impressive repertoire of spells (and they're the most likely to be using them).

As for the Comeliness ability score, maybe it should just be an extra thing to roll up at the beginning. I'm not really sure what to do either.

About the Dominatrix: Yeah, it's pretty much a mixture of the Lasher, Fist of Hextor and Mindbender PrCs, but I wanted to have a character who could strike someone with a whip and then order them about with the enchantment effects (command: Kneel, Dominate person: Lick my boots clean).

All the PrCs I suggested were in addition to converting the original sub-classes into PrCs of course.


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posted September 20, 2001 08:10 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OddJob: I would not consider that to be nitpicking.
The schools are one of my mainproblems. And I will change them to single ones, when I can decide, which one to choose (some of the spells do have two parts that do a bit of mindeffecting and a bit of bodily change or illusion).

Bummer, I forgot to put it in: it will be a metamagic feat for sure (what else could it be). But why should it be less valuable to bards and sorcerers, if it was not (am I missing a rule here?).

Suggestion for the mini-sadism feat: You are able to induce pleasure through sadism, even if your partner(s) id (are) not masochistically inclined. If your partner(s) is (are) masochistically inclined, their pleasure will be doubled and you receives a bonus to domination attempts
(just an idea)


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posted September 20, 2001 08:22 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kolvar: I think I misunderstood your earlier post. You stated that the caster may LEARN the spell as a kiss spell, which I thought meant they took up a 'spells known' slot. Since Bards and Sorcerers are limited in the number of spells known, it would be a serious disadvantage for them to pick them.

Anyway, the Prestige classes are starting to take shape with the posting of the mini-feats, I'm trying to fit mini-feat pre-requisites to each class right now. I think this project is coming together quite nicely now. In fact I thought up of a possible contents so that we can visualise the different sections more easily and get work done accordingly. Most of the titles aren't correct, just descriptions of things that might be in it.

Introduction

Chapter 1: New rules
Seduction
Sex
Fertility
Conception/Pregnancy
Birth
Disease/Afflictions

Chapter 2: Skills and feats
New skills
New uses for old skills
New feats
New uses for old feats
Manoeuvres/Mini-feats

Chapter 3: Prestige classes
New prestige classes
Original sub classes as prestige classes

Chapter 4: Organisations and locations
Brothels - generation tables, sample brothels etc.
Literature - Magazines/Periodicals/'art'
Places of interest - Abyssal planes, Demiplanes, Tantric monk temples etc.

Chapter 5: Magic
New spells
Rituals - sex magics

Chapter 6: Tools of the trade
Mundane items - 'normal' sex aids, contraceptives etc.
Magical items
New materials

Chapter 7: Monsters
Monsters - including NPCs to interact with, average Bar wench, Dashing swashbuckler, Prostitute (Special attack: Disease!) etc
New Templates - Half breed madness due to the Mystic Midwife ability

Chapter 8: Appendices/Notes
Miscellaneous
Adventure seeds
Campaign styles/ideas - Erotic anime campaign, Porn movie campaign, Soap opera
Sources of inspiration/References


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posted September 20, 2001 08:46 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Table of Contents looks OK. To Disease Insanities should be addes.
Maybe, we should add a chapter about chastity, although I am not sure, what to put into it.
And something about orgiastic feasts would be nice.
Do we keep the/ a bitch rule? or the rule for men (can not remember the name)?

OddJob, you are right, my wording was not right. It probably should be: cast spells as kiss spells, with the normal disadvanteges for sorcerers and bards.


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posted September 20, 2001 09:48 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The bitch rule would probably go in with Pregnancy or afflictions (afflictions will include all non-normal conditions relating to sex), the Critical rack hit chart also.

Something about Chastity and Courtly love would probably go in the first chapter, there's quite a bit of material in the old Complete guide to Paladins about that sort of stuff. I don't know about Orgiastic feasts though, definitely something to do with sex magic though. I'll do some research on this on the net.

I'm starting to get ahead of myself now, I keep imagining a cover for this book, parodying the core rulebooks. Bound with dark red leather with gold hinges and corner pieces embossed with nude bodies. Hmm….I could probably do this in PhotoShop.


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posted September 20, 2001 03:00 PM     Profile for kitoy   Author's Homepage   Email kitoy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
There's a sexually themed PrC that I know of that was created by an artist known as TCatt. You may want to take a look at it here.

You may have to sign up for the group to see it, but it's definitely worth it. It's fully illustrated and includes a bunch of custom feats and (I think) some skills.

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posted September 20, 2001 03:42 PM     Profile for Phoenix8008   Email Phoenix8008     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This stuff is awesome so far you guys!! I loved the original Guide (sick perv that I am!) and actually pulled it out recently (ha, ha, no pun intended. Really!) because my wife was considering converting one of her old characters - "Miranda" who was a Wizardess specializing in charm stuff and utilizing some of the spells in the original guide. I even thought how great it would be if the Guide could be updated for 3E. But to come here and find someone in the process of doing it is most excellent! So far, I like most of what I've seen. I absolutely love the listed prestige classes! I will definately need to get a copy of the whole thing when it's finished. I just wish I could get it all in one place now. But, it's a work in progress. I wish I had time to help, but I will gladly come back and give any comments/criticisms I come up with. I need to peruse the spells that are done and maybe compile the stuff (cut and paste) from this thread into one Word document. Thanks for the work you are doing. I think it will be a great addition to 3E!

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posted September 20, 2001 05:13 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey hey! A groupie at last!

This kind of reaction makes the whole thing worth it. I'm glad you like the stuff, Phoenix8008. Tell anyone you think that might be interested about the project, cos we'll probably need a bit more help.

That Class by Tcatt is quite brilliant, he got there before I did with the Cha bonus to AC! I wonder if we should get his permission to add it to the netbook.


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posted September 20, 2001 05:34 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Argh... Being 15, I can't sign up for that netgroup to see the PrC. I hope you all see the irony in that.

I'll clean up the mini-feats and add Pregnancy rules next.

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posted September 20, 2001 05:40 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'll try to mail the class to you, might take a while though, quite a large file.
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posted September 20, 2001 09:12 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Argh! My virgin eyes! These women are wearing - DRESSES!

Seriously, though. This is a good class concept. Needs tweaking, though. I'll keep it in mind.

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posted September 20, 2001 09:44 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
GETTING PREGNANT

1) Roll a die, the specific die depends on species. This simulates the chance of a fertile egg being available in the uterus of the mother.
2) The mother rolls a Constitution check, the specific Difficulty Class depending on the species of the mother. Modifiers can be applied for situtations such as parents of different species, a less than fertile father, or any other situation. If you succeed, congratulation, you’re pregnant.
3) Additionally, if you roll high enough on the Fortitude check, there is a chance for twins/triplets or more based on the species of the father. This works much like critical hits. If you roll within a certain distance of 20, you can roll again – If you succeed, you have more children.

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posted September 20, 2001 10:08 PM     Profile for Baastet   Email Baastet     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey guys..

I must say great stuff so far. My GM was wondering if someone had converted the old netbook....

There is one little thing I would add though. Don't forget the "Rack" rule or a varient of. It was used extensively within our old campaign.

Keep up the great work

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posted September 21, 2001 03:20 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Riot Gear: You are 15?
Does your mom know, what you are doing here (you must be realy nasty doing such great rules about sex :-))
At last, that explains, why you both have so much time at the moment. Just to out myself: I am 30 and doing one of those online-jobs, where you see your computer more often than your wife (eh, yes, and my daughter).
And just to make a correction to the original guide: the official time for pregnancy is about 10 month contrary to popular believe with +-10 days being within the norm.
Most birthes of second children of friends actually took longer than the first, except where the first child was got with a Caesarean section.
The PMS can be quite hard for anyone around, but there are possibilities (e.g. sex, evening primrose oil) to lessen the effect.
And sex can have a realy relaxing effect on people suffering from migraine.
Ooops, did I write all this? Maybe I should change my name, my email-address, my face.

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posted September 21, 2001 03:41 AM     Profile for Malmet   Email Malmet     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kolvar and Oddjob, I'm quite lazy.
Can't you guys post the converted netbook when it's finished in a new thread when it's finished so that I don't need to follow this thread?
/joakim

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Kolvar
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posted September 21, 2001 03:51 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think, that a compilation of all these rules is the intention behind all this work.
But I guess, we will open another thread, when we are done.

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posted September 21, 2001 04:11 AM     Profile for Kolvar   Author's Homepage   Email Kolvar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just took a look at the pdf-file from T. Catt.
I will contact him, because a) he has converted some spells, b) the prestige class would be a nice to be added c) we could ask him for some pictures.

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posted September 21, 2001 08:52 AM     Profile for kitoy   Author's Homepage   Email kitoy     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This is kind of OT, but what the hey.

Since we're on the subject of TCatt, he has a wonderful website of fan artwork, mostly nekkid superheroes, but he also has a small section of fantasy heroes, also naked.

I won't give the address here, since it's a direct link to pictures of naked women. However, the address shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Think about it.

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posted September 21, 2001 09:00 AM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well,I've got the first PrC finished. See what you think.

Dominatrix
"Feel the pain…..and submit."

The Dominatrix (Male: Dominator) is a warrior who uses pain and tyranny to achieve her on ends. In battle, those of weak will or strength bow down to her might or run away in fear. The Dominatrix can use her whip to cause pain and to compel her victims to obey her every whim.

Fighters are the usual candidates for this prestige class, although the more Lawful Clerics or rangers might also reap the benefits. Fallen Paladins, ex-barbarians, bards and rogues who become Dominators are not unknown.

The Dominatrix could be a slave-master, a cruel general, fiendish warrior or a servant of a tyrannical Deity.

Hit die: d10
Class Skills: As Fighter + Intimidation, bluff, Use rope 2+Int Mod/level

Requirements:
Base attack bonus: +5
Feats: Whip proficiency, Skill focus (Intimidation), Weapon focus (Whip), Leather or studded armor proficiency
Skills: Sexual technique 8 ranks, Intimidation 4 ranks, Use rope 4 ranks, Craft (leatherworking) 4 ranks, Ride 4 ranks, Perform 2 ranks
Alignment: Lawful Evil, Lawful Neutral, Neutral Evil
Manoeuvres: Forceful lover, Sadism, Overwhelming force, Talk dirty

Abilities:

BAB: As fighter
Saves: As Cleric

1. Commanding whip 1/ day, wound
2. Close combat, Leadership +1
3. Whip of fear 1/day, Commanding whip 2/ day
4. Suggestive whip 1/day
5. Leadership +2, Commanding whip 3/ day
6. Whip of fear 2/day
7. Commanding whip 4/ day, Suggestive whip 2/day
8. Leadership +3, Greater commanding whip 1/day
9. Whip of fear 3/day, Commanding whip 5/ day
10. Dominating whip 1/day

Commanding whip (Ex) : The Dominatrix is especially good at getting her way when using her whip. The use of this ability must be announced before a normal attack roll, if the Dominatrix hits, the victim is affected as with the Command spell unless they make a Will save (DC 11 + Cha mod). The Dominatrix must speak the command.

Wound (Ex): As the Lasher ability

Close combat (Ex): As the Lasher ability

Whip of fear (Ex): As a standard action which does not draw an attack of opportunity, the Dominatrix may crack her whip around to induce Fear in surrounding enemies, who must make a Will save (DC 10 + Class level + Cha Mod) or flee for 2 rounds per class level. The ability is an area effect which has a 10' radius per level.

Suggestive whip (Ex): As Commanding whip, except the Victim must make a Will save of DC 13 + Cha Mod or be affected as Suggestion. The Dominatrix must speak the suggestion. The duration is 1 hour per class level or until completed, whichever is shorter.

Greater commanding whip (Ex): As Commanding whip, except the Victim must make a Will save of DC 15 + Cha Mod or be affected as Greater Command. The Dominatrix must speak the command. This lasts one round per Class level.

Dominating whip: As Commanding whip, except the Victim must make a Will save of DC 19 + Cha Mod or be affected as Dominate Monster. The duration is 1 day per class level.

Leadership bonus: The Dominatrix receives a bonus to Leadership based on the table.

I'll get started on the rest and the old subclasses now.

Heh, heh, 69th post on this thread.

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posted September 21, 2001 10:39 AM     Profile for Phoenix8008   Email Phoenix8008     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Love the Dominatrix PrC, oddjob!! I also downloaded and printed out the Warriors of Rapture PrC authored by Tcatt as mentioned above. Love it also!

Well, I have copied and pasted everything up to and including oddjob's fleshed out Dominatrix PrC into a single Word document. So far , including the title page and the contents page, it totals 18 pages. If anyone wants a copy of it so far, I can e-mail it to you.

I have tried to put the info in the correct chapters as per the prospective Contents page. I know it is all a work in progress but I went ahead and added everything including some things that were just ideas for the future.

Looks great so far. I can't wait to see the Arcane spells converted! That was some of the best stuff.

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posted September 21, 2001 04:05 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Very nice, Oddjob. Next, I'll work on modifiers to the Sexual Technique roll. Expect it soon.

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posted September 21, 2001 04:31 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Modifiers

For Orifice/Organ Size Difference
-8 if the organ is two size categories smaller than the orifice.
-2 if the organ is one size category smaller than the orifice.
+2 for every size category the organ is larger than the orifice. However, without magic to increase the tolerance of the orifice, it is impossible to get an organ more than two size categories larger than an orifice in to said orifice.

Size Categories
Lesser, Average, and Greater versions of Fine, Diminuitive, Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge, Gargantuan, and Colossal

Dildos
+1 if toy vibrates/+2 if toy writhes/+4 is toy is Animated by the spell

Lubricants
+1 for average quality lubricants/+2 for fine lubricants/+3 or higher for magical lubricants.

Sensitivity
-8 for unsensitive (mouth)/-2 for semi-sensitive (anus)/+2 for extra sensitive/+4 for hypersensitive

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posted September 21, 2001 05:47 PM     Profile for oddjob   Email oddjob     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nice one, Riot Gear, although I think Oil of Slipperiness will add more than a +3!
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posted September 21, 2001 06:39 PM     Profile for Riot Gear   Email Riot Gear     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
True - But that's why I said +3 or HIGHER. It could be more. How are you all doing on your projects? I'm not sure what to do next.

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