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Kolvar
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posted October 18, 2001 09:55 AM
     
Oddjob, will you do the mailing????
(by the way: Oddjob from Goldfinger?)
Zelda: The problem with skill is, that, if we do not go against the official rules, skills will always increase with level. Giving a character just skill-points to increase his sex-skill, mhm, to make sense out of this would mean, that we had to have lots of skills. I am with you, when it comes to 15 level fighters being better in bed than a 1st level commoner, who has his third wife, regularly goes to the house of ill repute and is very good at it.
Doing good sex is a skill or talent (he could get skill-focus). Either way, in D&D, the low level characters will always be not to good at it (that is a bummer, but we have to go with the rules somehow).
Maybe some non-magical feats would be required here.
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Zelda Themelin
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posted October 18, 2001 10:22 AM
Thank you for your answer. I kind of figured that is probably the reason. Well, I can house-rule it however I like, so it is really no problem to me.Oh, yes. How about giving charcters 1 extra skill point/level or every two levels usable only to sex-skills? Great job btw, especially you Kolvar and Riot Gear, and oddjobb. And whoever did writeup for Genies, great work!  [ October 18, 2001: Message edited by: Zelda Themelin ]
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Vaxalon
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posted October 18, 2001 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Riot Gear:
My original intention was that if Perform was a class skill, so was Sexual Technique - But your idea may be more reasonable, Vaxalon.
Look at it this way... who else but a specialist has time to make it the kind of focus that a class skill represents? Look at the class skills that each class gets. They're all directly related to their role (or possible role) in an adventuring party. You don't see class skills for hobbies. That's what makes them cross-class. A fighter can take Knowledge(Arcana) to indicate that he's interested in magic without going so far as to multiclass... but he has to pay extra for it. The same should apply to sexual skills. --------------------  IRON DM ENWORLD
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Ialdabode
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posted October 18, 2001 01:28 PM
Radical idea, but considering the goal in the D20 system is not to create a crapload of skills, why not use the skill Perform (Sex)?Think about it. Bards become sex gods, experts can easily devote themselves to it. The big dumb warrior who thinks, "I like swords," is a turn on has to risk an untrained check. This way, you can either make multiple forms of sex skills or just a single one to get the bonus. Perform UCK ideas: Perform (Sex) - general sexual knowledge
Perform (Specific position) - mastery of a position
Perform (Massage) - give excellent front rubs
Perform (Dirty limericks) -
Perform (Pillow talk)
... and so forth. -------------------- I KNOW what you're thinking... 
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Zelda Themelin
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posted October 18, 2001 02:59 PM
 Now, how should I continue my quest of corrupting innocent kids. Purity test is old.
Hey, this is mailing list for carnal knowledge D&D. Now I know. American Jedi
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_info/0,3699,489408,00.html Check you, if you dare, and have fun. I go to sleep now.
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horacio
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posted October 19, 2001 07:13 AM
Me too...Perform(sex) skill is clear, concise and very d20, a long set of skills would be making difficult a thing that should be easy (I've lurking in this thread too much by now, I think I should begin to be more active...) -------------------- Horacio My story Hour: A rider arrives! (a Deadlands d20 story) Rules & Essays Project Assistant
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Kolvar
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posted October 19, 2001 08:38 AM
Praise, praise, praise, oh great evil one.
If I be honest, though, I have no oppinion on this subject. The system so far is good and we have done a lot of work so far. I will not vote for a system, I do not no so far. The thing with Perform is, that I am not realy sure, if sex is something, that only belongs to perform. Some will do it more as a craft or profession (there was a list of new professions including the prostitute while back on the board). Maybe, there should be something like a craft (sex), a skill that can be substituted for the perform skill for some techniques only.
In addition, the way, the perform skill is described (a way I realy do not like much), someone who has learned lots of instruments and than thinks about learning sex, will be very good at it.
My 10 groschen about this.
(I guess I come out somewhere more to the system as it stands right now than to a system based on perform)
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Riot Gear
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posted October 19, 2001 08:47 AM
The system DOES need tweaking. The only question is how. I will muse on this....(Thinks about sex for a while) I'll have the answer soon. But first I'm going to spend more time thinking about sex. -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. 
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Zelda Themelin
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posted October 19, 2001 10:19 AM
I personally have used craft for such skills, but with charisma/variying stat. Some go for beauty and charm, but others like their lovers strong, but stupid.I like the system now, but I am neural about changing it too. Here is my idea about meaning of stats, simply and quickly put: Charisma - beauty/feeling of personal power/Charm Strenght - strong and tough type Constitution - trimmed and athletic Dexterity - Nimble and great moves Intelligence - smart, knows tricks and never forgets what I like best Wisdom - knows and cares to learn what feels good to me, knows when go for tender romance or for bestial lust.
Most people go for one of those "stat"-styles. Expert lovers might know them all.
In my games, seduction doesn't work very well, unless other person likes your approach tactic, and what kind of feeling person get's from seduced. If I don't go for any deeper feeling, and let's say both are willing to get date/laid. Somebody who likes strong types, might find intelligent types boring (and thus such would get negative modified on their seduction check), and wise verse. This don't being smart/strong would be bad (at least not usually), it's about simle thing, if seduced picks the right way to show right side of his/hers, what is most attractive to him/her, changes of success are greater.
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Zelda Themelin
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posted October 19, 2001 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Kolvar:
Somehow, I get the feeling, we are back to where we have been 8 pages ago. Maybe we should start a new thread, recap everything and close this one (although I hoped to go up to 500 posts)
If Riot Gear likes to write new rules, I think that's ok. If not, let's stick to other unfished stuff. There's no use to be too perfect, it only leads to boredom. See what I mean by checking "Sorcerer all problems fixed" tread at WOD and all other treads about fixing sorcerer/bard/ranger.
"Hey, does everybody agree on my ideas. "
Face it - everybody never will. Idea is not to please everybody, and my ideas are just as they seem to be, tired suggestions, I woundn't swear on agreeing myself tomorrow. But please, please, don't dumb everything you've written this far, it is far too fine stuff iMO for that.
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Kolvar
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posted October 19, 2001 11:29 AM
We would never dump everything, we would just have to rewrite some of the rules.
The basic rules are Riot Gears stuff, the main effort was done so far by him, Oddjob, and me. Since yesterday(?) you are on board and a lot of people have contributed. The original guide was done by totally different people and was given to all of us little gamers, when no one thought about 3e.
The way I see/ feel it, it is not totally our child, we are just some of the parents (should keep this in mind for the other thread: races with more than two parents: how do the kids look like, how do they do it). Each one of us loves, what he has done so far, and I, too, think, that a lot of good work has been done so far (And I still have to rework the spells again to count them, too).
All of us believe, that it is a good project we got here, and that it should become as good as possible (I would like to see some art, a nice cover and all this, equaling the official stuff). Now to the point: If a heap of people think, something could be done better, we realy have to think about doing it better.
(would this be a rant?)
We are still in the draft (personally I am still counting 0.1.x).
I wish, more would contribute (g).
Oh boy, I get so emotional sometimes. I love you all.
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posted October 19, 2001 12:37 PM
I think sex and sexual "feats" would fall under Perform. The occupation of prostitution would be Profession (Prostitute) and I could easily see getting a synergy bonus with your Perform (sex) score if you have 5 ranks of Profession (prostitute).Of course, Knowledge (sex) is something different. You'd be the sex-guru but without any Perform ranks you might not be able to pull it off. I'd say this would probably grant a synergy bonus with any sex tricks you have Perform for, because you are skilled at doing them AND have intimate (no pun intended) knowledge of what you're doing and what reaction it should illicit. Of course Bluff, Sense Motive, Diplomacy, and Intimidate also come into play. Bluff for seducation, Sense Motive to discern things like seduction attempts and if your partner is "faking it," Diplomacy for whenever you need to negotiate matters, and Intimidate for when negotitation fails. -------------------- I KNOW what you're thinking...
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